kgonepostl kgonepostl is offline

Hit them where it hurts Brakken
Their wallets

grizzlyx grizzlyx is offline

Keep at it because you love the scene. Otherwise I can't blame you for moving on.
Think about the good shit and don't let those other fuckers get to you. Just look at the MAME release! Epic.

brakken brakken is offline

It's hard on you when you spend all day looking for new news just to find other sites like dcemu has the same news, but doesn't credit you. An example would be the new MAME for the the Wii. I saw wraggster on my site and then a few hours later he posts the same news, but credits wiibrew.org as the source when he knows damn well where the emulator was initially released.

djdynamite123 djdynamite123 is offline

Majority of the scene sites i use credit tehskeen now, (Iv'e had to question a couple for not), now resolved in some. Of course you know who doesn't, and most likely won't. :/

HeadsUp7up HeadsUp7up is offline

Meh, do you really do it for the hits? Once people find the source of something, they tend to stay there because its the fastest route to the info. Why would you take down the site because other are reposting info without credit? You have your base of regulars, and its only growing over time.

Kojote Kojote is offline

we had the same situation many times before and i understand everyone who tries to generate fast and exclusive content for his pages. plagiarism is not only a problem limited to articles and news.

someone should understand, that specially people who work non profit, try to help where ever possible and waste hours daily to manually check dozens of pages, deserve at least credits.

the latest "hit" is to link to foreign (non english) pages, so you actually point at a source, but not the original one. as the majority of users understands english and probably not a page writing news in german, french or whatever... of course those people will stick with the english site. but the main things: the credits go to a wrong source, to keep people at your very own page.

also pretty famous is just re-routing credits. page x gets news from y. y credits x. now z comes up, takes news from y, but does not credit y instead of y and x - also in reference to the paragraph above.

just go and look around on your self how many scene pages steal content without giving the appropriate respect.

oh what some others do as well. x does not like y. so x waits till the news appear on any other page than y, and credits them instead.

there are so many dirty tricks around...

for my case i try to do my best and track down the original source and give credits to all related people. if you have the time to write an article, no one can tell you don't have the time to sneak in a few credits or links.

this all just makes me sick

so whoever wants to go into depth, try to recognize those pattern on your own. this is a serious matter and not only a scratched ego.

stealing is stealing. if it's intellectual or something you can touch with your hands.

everyone should be that fair, to give at least the minimum someone can give back: credits, where credits are due.

Kojote Kojote is offline

problems are usually only with the same sites. they also act as bad example for everyone out there, who wants to start his own news page. if you don't fix this disease how others should learn it in the proper way from scratch?! for everything there are rules and ethics.

kgonepostl kgonepostl is offline

It isn't about that. It's about him putting in the hard work when he could do the same thing and steal news and mark it as his own. This site is hard on him!

WiiNewz WiiNewz is offline

Why do you care what the mindless drones on those other sites think? Anyone with any real scene knowledge knows where to find the true sources of information.

oblachubs oblachubs is offline

Oh grow up. Think of it as the best form of flattery. You are not making any money on it either way so nobody cares.

Kojote Kojote is offline

just try to explain a newcomer what's "the real deal". making up your mind takes time and i don't think anyone will really go into detail. most people are only consumers and usually stick with the first solution. so people might find a "news stealing" page informative without knowing how the material gets "produced".

Kojote Kojote is offline

no money indeed, but if someone can waste hours to find news, why some other random idiot steals all of it in less than 5 minutes. as said before, there is only one way to "pay back" and show the appreciation. simple as it is: credits.

kgonepostl kgonepostl is offline

You naysayers are starting to piss me off and don't understand how much hard work it is to run this site. It's a full time without pay so these assholes could have the god damn decency to at least link the source.

dorm3nt dorm3nt is offline

I am wit kgonepostl, brak, dyna and Kojote, you think the guys who find all this news for us "regular users"(and it'd seem so you bastards can get more news on your site without doing any work) so it's all condensed into a couple sites we like to visit daily, instead of hunting around EVERY possibly site for homebrew that could maybe have new releases (regardless of what searching tools or mass amount of bookmarks they prolly have after doin it so long) is something that takes no time? They don't get paid, hell I've seen Brak SOURCE the douche bags from "those sites" when it came from their site first.. they can't have the common decency to do the same?.... no they r the ones who JUMP on when bullshit that has nothing to do with the scene comes up, so they can source it back to sites they dislike, dickheads I must say, as Kojote stated, it takes two damn seconds after you are done writing your article to source the shit properly people.. if you even write your own anymore, heh.

Ah well, figured I'd put my piece into the topic, and i'm in a pissed mood as it is, so meh, ranting is fun, fun

and @ oblachubs man.. you grow up.. all these guys r askin for is for people to not BLATANTLY rip their shit off.. especially when it was released on their own damn site or they spent hours finding it, so that some prick could come along and post it from another source (which prolly sourced tehskeen as the original)... guess you'll prolly have some awesome reply for that last bit there, but I prolly won't even glance at this thread again.. it'll get pettier than hell in under a few days I bet, oh well. I see it as a MASSIVE lack of respect for peoples work, whatever form of work it is, would you like people to pay you no mind when you put effort into something to help people out? regardless of what it is, honestly, can you say that it wouldn't irritate the shit out of you?

and uhh, now ranting is done, done

HeadsUp7up HeadsUp7up is offline

I just want brakken to have peace that comes from the inside The world isn't perfect, far from it, and it doesn't ever get better. I want him to do whatever he does for himself, without the influence of the people who might not be as altruistic.

geodeath geodeath is offline

lots of ways to make them suffer.

1. ban their ips and their sites ip address and prevent any hotlinking if you didnt do that already.
2. send them a cease and desist. Next time they do so, sue them. I know its far from "scene" ethics, but putting some trouble their way is worth the shot
3. start a false "techno" war. Spam coming from their addresses will put them in spam lists. Report them to malware aware list sites & google so their addresses will not load in their browser by default but show that warning. Noobs will go away forever in fear of getting hit by viruses (lol). Mailbomb their email addresses so the server crashes or they cannot read any mail at all (once their inbox is full, all emails will bounce back). Even better, start a war like that between these sites.
If site A and site B both take your work without crediting you, bomb site A with sites B address and vice versa and let the new world war begin while watching eating pop corn.

Many more evil ideas. Sign up their email addresses in mailing lists etc etc etc.
Of course the 2 first ideas are the best and i would do them in a heartbeat. But some people that still send me spam although i personally emailed them lots of times and they didt stop, got a mailbob that big, they couldnt read email for a long time.

Just my 0,02

FunkyBaboon FunkyBaboon is offline

Can't we all just play nicely?

Make love and not war and all that...

Capt_Trips Capt_Trips is offline

I agree with brakken.

This is the hub around which spokes should move, but, maybe it is not?

But, let's not get carried away with trying to copyright the internet, that would be bad.

I think brakken would settle on proper sourcing and a LINK from wragster et al.

Still, so long as wraggster keeps the numb nuts at bay, Far away from tehskeen, I don't get the big deal besides the principle of the thing.

Brakken, the Aboriganese Language uses sentence qualifiers at the very begining of the sentence, to denote, "I saw, or I heard myself, or I was told." No other language does that, that way.

brakken brakken is offline

This is a post from wraggster the person who steals news from PDRoms, myself and other sites concerning my post.

Let me address some issues. First, I know MAME has a Wiibrew page, but it was posted here first and the Wiibrew page wasn't updated for an hour or so afterwards. During this time I saw wraggster on my site which was the initial release page.

Second, he mentions the note I left on TehSkeen when I tried to kill myself and claims it was for "hits". How low can you go?

Third he mentions he will "never link to TehSkeen" so that basically nullifies his claim about MAME and sums up the entire mess.

Lastly, then he says he's going to go back to posting news. It should state "I'm going back to copying and pasting general gaming news bullshit, posting advertisements in blocks of 10 for crap games and accessories and then stealing news or just copying and pasting it since I can't write my own news from other sites".

devmas devmas is offline

Just to mess with 'em, you should, instead of writing text, use a .png picture with text in it as news so that they can't copy/paste.

It's funny, though... Before visiting Tehskeen, I used to use Dcemu for news. Ironically, I found Tehskeen through one of the times they did source this site as the source.

I understand the frustation and all, but all you can really do is just keep going despite opposition, I guess.

brakken brakken is offline

I'll keep going for now (at least until my year of hosting runs out in 3-4 months [i can't remember when it runs out]). At that time I am already considering closing the site due to people like wraggster.

ahbearbear ahbearbear is offline

One way to treat these thieves is to post phony news or include some typo or false info and see if they publish it on their site. I know its unfair to deceive tekskeen user with fake news or half correct news. But that's the way to punish copycats. These idiots are just too lazy to do the legwork.

Once they posted it, you can update us by mentioning that you "news" has just been published elsewhere and you'll be taking down the phony stuff. In this way, these copycat will not copy anything that are posted here immediately. They might be forced to do some checks or look elsewhere for "inspiration".

I enjoy visiting this site. Keep up the good work!

ironfist ironfist is offline

Information is not something you can "steal", unless it's secret, in which case, it's not meant to be news.

News is news, if you don't want people to use your news reports, there's nothing you can really do. It's nothing worth getting upset about.

The mission of a news site should be to make information known to people - this is something I've learned in studying Journalism. You should be glad that people are "stealing" news from you - the information is getting out!

I'm not saying you aren't running a good news site yourself, but it really doesn't matter if someone else uses your news.

murfo murfo is offline

Just post some hoaxes. Always fun.

trispin trispin is offline

If the site shuts down because of this, they win, WE all lose. Then it's off to copy/paste from another site and Tehskeen is long forgotten. I would rather see a five year anniversary for Tehskeen, and keep enjoying the site that introduced me to console homebrew back in December of 2005. A lot of people were hearbroken when Tehskeen shut down a while back, so although certain sites inability to source sucks in a big way, don't think your efforts go unappreciated by any means Brakken (and recently DJ Dynamite, who I think has down a fantastic job keeping up with Wii homebrew).

Brainy142 Brainy142 is offline

(off topic)
Not to mention Dcemu cant even post properly, half the time you get the same post 2-3 times... I like their site and all but, dam they need to organize a bit, not to mention they have WAY too much off topic news.

(on topic)
The overdose blow... Man that is really low... Could Wraggster not think of a better diss?

You know what at least Brakken doesn't waste space by double posting.

Why can't people just give credit? When I was a poster at a different site I would always make sure to give credit to the source. Cuz I'm

Point being why not just give credit? or is saying "thanks" to Brakken too much for your ego?

I would like to point out I'm indifferent to where I hear my news, but I still believe in credit. (so dont get mad at me wraggster)

remember giving credit means you =
Not giving credit makes you seem lazy.

RHOPKINS13 RHOPKINS13 is offline

I really hope you don't close this site. Your news may get stolen, but what you have here is a community of people. Look at how much traffic the forums get! And you would let all those people down just because other people are stealing your news? I know it's frustrating, but even if you did stop the news posts I would hope you would consider keeping up the forums. I would be devastated to see this site disappear, as I've learned half of what I know about the scene from this site.

HCK91 HCK91 is offline

Wraggster...What an idiot. How could he dare saying such a thing? Suicide becomes a new way to get HITZZZ! Incredibly low of him...

komradkoyle komradkoyle is offline

It's all about the homebrew so to fuck with these guys. Besides anyone who goes to dcemu over tehskeen is a 'tard anyway.